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Yamaha RX-A860 AVENTAGE Suggestions for Improvements

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RX-A860 HeroI love all of the streaming features the Yamaha RX-A860 offers.  In fact, I'd say as far as networking and streaming audio goes, this is likely the best option in AV receivers under $1k.  However, I don't like how offering all of these features has caused compromises in the most important area, POWER.  While the RX-A860 is fine driving small bass-managed 8 ohm speakers, this is the first time I'd actually caution people against using 4 ohm speakers or even running 8 ohm tower speakers on the “large” setting. I’ve never said this about a Yamaha before. It's sad that a $400 predecessor from the very same company offered a more robust amp and power section than this product, which has AVENTAGE moniker stamped on it.  To pour further salt on the power wound, the preamp out section of this receiver is a bit weak, making it critical to match with a high gain amplifier to ensure the preamp itself doesn't clip while driving external amplification.  I'd like to see Yamaha beef up the amp section so the current limiting could be a little less restrictive and for God's sake, please give us a clean 2Vrms output from the pre-outs of ALL your AV receivers!

Conclusion

There's a lot to like about the Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A860 AV receiver.  It's packed with excellent, easy to use networking features, has the latest in immersive audio, and has a wonderful easy to use GUI.  If used within the limits I noted in this review, the RX-A860 will certainly serve as the centerpiece of a very nice home theater system.  Yamaha's App to control this receiver from your smartphone is both useful and intuitive and just makes the whole user experience that much better.  We do hope Yamaha continues to offer this great feature set while working to improve some of the deficiencies in the next iteration of this product.

 

Yamaha RX-A860 Network Atmos/DTS:X AV Receiver YouTube Review

Yamaha RX-A860 Review
$899.95

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http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/aventage/

About Yamaha

Yamaha Electronics Corporation (YEC), USA, based in Buena Park, California, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Yamaha Corporation of America. YEC offers industry-leading home theater components and systems, featuring A/V receivers, amplifiers, DVD/CD players, speakers, mini-systems, home-theater-in-a-box (HTiB) pre-matched systems and the company's exclusive Digital Sound Projectors (single component surround sound solutions), as well as A/V & IT convergence products.

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Zildjianmeister posts on July 13, 2019 18:58
I agree with all the above comments. If I was to go with just an AVR I would pick one of the higher Yamaha models.

I wanted to share that 860 review for those that haven't seen it. At least they did test with some respectable speakers.as opposed to sounding like a marketing ad.

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PENG posts on July 13, 2019 16:38
Andrein, post: 1326212, member: 80761
It might be not fine if you listen at high levels or use 7ch stereo. But then it will be an issue even for more expensive yamaha avrs, maybe just the issue starts manifesting itself sooner with 8xx series.

True, though I suspect not too many people who would enjoy the 7 Ch Stereo at near reference or higher level. THX standard's is for each speaker to be able to produce 105 dB peak at the main listening position, but 105 dB is very loud to most people, period, whether it is from 1 speaker, or 7 speakers.

The popular calculator below shows only 30 watts per channel is required to produce 105 dB at the listening position 12 ft from the speakers, when 7 channel stereo mode is engaged.

https://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html
Andrein posts on July 13, 2019 16:12
snakeeyes, post: 1326217, member: 85468
The F36 is 91dB sensenitivity so RXA2070 won’t be having any issues even at max volume but that’s loud enough to really damage your hearing.
https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/revel-concerta2-f36-tower-speaker-review.105070/
Still depends on the distance from LP, listening level, content being played (multich stereo likely to create more problems sooner). Was speaking in general. A8xx in this respect is going to suffer sooner and more. Though if gear is adequate for the task it should work just fine.
snakeeyes posts on July 13, 2019 11:50
Andrein, post: 1326212, member: 80761
It might be not fine if you listen at high levels or use 7ch stereo. But then it will be an issue even for more expensive yamaha avrs, maybe just the issue starts manifesting itself sooner with 8xx series.

The F36 is 91dB sensenitivity so RXA2070 won’t be having any issues even at max volume but that’s loud enough to really damage your hearing.


https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/revel-concerta2-f36-tower-speaker-review.105070/
Andrein posts on July 13, 2019 11:29
PENG, post: 1326208, member: 6097
That was just a subjective review with no measurements taken on the amp's preamp and/or power amp output so you can't assume Yamaha had “fixed” the pre out related issues Gene commented on in the AH review. I do agree with ADTG, that for real world use, it should be fine, but it you intend to use it with external power amp, then the higher series are highly recommended, or at least aim for a power amp that offers higher gain than the typical 28-29 dB.
It might be not fine if you listen at high levels or use 7ch stereo. But then it will be an issue even for more expensive yamaha avrs, maybe just the issue starts manifesting itself sooner with 8xx series.
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