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Denon AVR-X3800H 11.4CH Receiver: The Ultimate Afffordable AV Preamp?

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Denon AVR-X3800H AV Receiver

Denon AVR-X3800H AV Receiver

Summary

  • Product Name: AVR-X3800H
  • Manufacturer: Denon
  • Review Date: September 09, 2022 00:25
  • MSRP: $1,700
  • First Impression: Gotta Have It!
  • Buy Now

Executive Overview

Denon AVR-X3800h boxLast week we saw a leak of new Denon and Marantz AV products on all of the major audio forums. The new Marantz AV 10 and AMP 10 Separates look absolutely killer...IF you could afford their $7k/ea price tag. But what if you want to assemble a separates system on a more down to Earth budget? Most AV processors are upwards of $3k and they typically have only 1 or maybe 2 subwoofer outputs (some dual sub outs are NOT independent). Having two and preferably four independent subwoofer outputs is a must have feature for anyone setting up a home theater that wants perfect bass response. Independent level and delay control is the best way to optimize the response of 4 subwoofers in your room and that type of bass configuration ensures reduced seat to seat variation in bass response making EQ highly effective at eliminating bass bass peaks for ALL seated locations.

11.4CH Denon AVR-X3800H AV Receiver: The Ultimate Preamp?

Denon will be announcing a slew of new products at CEDIA 2022 in just a few short weeks. The preliminary info on the AVR-X3800H is here though some of this is not 100% confirmed. We plan on doing full coverage at the show and updating this article accordingly along with supportive Youtube video livestreams.

Looking at the specs for the new Denon AVR-X3800H, we see the makings of a great affordable Preamp/Processor:

  • 11.4 processing (9CH of built in amplification)
  • Upgradable for Dirac Live
  • Auro 3D
  • Full set of 6/3 in/out hdmi 2.1 support (40Gbps on every input)
  • Dirac filters working with Dynamic EQ/Volume (not confirmed)
  • Preamp Disconnect Mode

From ASR: The biggest news, according to an insider, is that D&M have worked with Dirac to offer the first ever Dynamic EQ + Dynamic Vol of Audyssey side by side with Dirac Live. Up until now, no AVR/AVP with Dirac has Dynamic EQ capability (Dolby volume is limited to Dolby-only content).

Preamp Mode: Check

Used as strictly an AV receiver, the Denon AVR-X3800H has 9 channels of built in amplification. Denon rates the power at 180 watts/ch (6 ohms, 1kHz, 1%, 1CH driven). So much for Truth in Power. The real world power into 8 ohms, 2CH driven, is closer to 125-130 watts/ch which is still sufficient for most users needs. The fact that this unit has a preamp disconnect mode and the ability to route the amps to specific channels means you can add a high power 2CH amp to power your main speakers. In fact, If you want to use this receiver in full preamp mode, you can bypass ALL of the internal amps and connect external amplification making this a true 11.4 preamp/processor. In our prior bench tests of Denon and Marantz AV receivers, we found clean preamp sections capable of driving 4Vrms which is more than twice the voltage needed to drive most multi-channel amplifiers into clipping. In other words, these are all the good markings of a dedicated preamp/processor.

Denon x3800 Back

Denon AVR-X3800h Backpanel View - note the 4 subwoofer outputs

DIRAC Room Correction: Check

Denon has just upped its room correction game with FULL DIRAC support (upgrade option) in addition to simultaneously supporting Audyssey MultEQx.  This is first time we've seen a line of new AV receivers support both room correction systems.

>2022 Denon & Marantz Roadmap for Dirac Updates<

Affordable: Check

The Denon AVR-X3800H seems to be a sweetheart of a deal for anyone assembling a sophisticated Immersive Surround home theater system with up to 11 channels of processing and 4 independent subwoofer connections. You can start out using the internal amplification and add more power as you need. The fact that the AVR-X3800H could be used strictly as a preamp/processor and has so much going for it at only $1,700 makes it an ideal candidate for an affordable way to get into a separates system.

Denon 3800 No Cover

Denon AVR-X3800H Top Cover Removed

The Denon AVR-X3800H has a lot of tech crammed into it's case. You can see the large E-Core transformer in the lower left corner and the dual extruded aluminum heatsinks for the 9CH built in amplifier to the right of the power transformer. The dual heatsinks on the childcard at the back of the unit are likely to keep the HDMI 2.1 chipsets cool to ensure stable and long lived performance.

We will be updating this report at CEDIA 2022 so stay tuned...

 

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Chachy posts on November 11, 2022 13:45
I had seen the AVR-X4800H listed on Amazon.ca and then it was removed but I had added it to my wishlist and it now shows to be released on Dec 1-2022. When I click on it it shows page not found but should still be correct on the release date maybe. Not sure if it’s allowed to show this or prices but just thought it was interesting that it showed a release date. It does let me preorder it and add it to my
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AcuDefTechGuy posts on November 10, 2022 19:36
lovinthehd, post: 1579329, member: 61636
AVR or AVP analog vs digital has proved to be a bit different. Especially if you need the newest digital drm stuffs. While I had pretty good luck with Mercedes, definitely buggy in several ways….fine when under warranty altho annoying for the time but with a nice loaner not so bad Seems they have learned a lot about better hdmi boards over time to an extent, tho….

lovinthehd posts on November 10, 2022 19:21
AcuDefTechGuy, post: 1579328, member: 26997
Well I was gonna say. If we’re gonna compare good engineering to cars, it should be Lexus since Lexus has been ranked #1 in reliability since their inception year.

Mercedes has been ranked worst than average every single year.

I want an AVR or AVP or Amp that works perfectly for 20 years. That’s good engineering. Not necessarily SINAD of 120dB and THD+N of 0.0001% if it’s gonna be unreliable or incompatible or inconsistent.

But yeah, just say no to car analogies to audio gear.
AVR or AVP analog vs digital has proved to be a bit different. Especially if you need the newest digital drm stuffs. While I had pretty good luck with Mercedes, definitely buggy in several ways….fine when under warranty altho annoying for the time but with a nice loaner not so bad Seems they have learned a lot about better hdmi boards over time to an extent, tho….
AcuDefTechGuy posts on November 10, 2022 19:14
lovinthehd, post: 1579324, member: 61636
Just say no to car analogies to audio gear. Mercedes needs to feed that infrastructure
Well I was gonna say. If we’re gonna compare good engineering to cars, it should be Lexus since Lexus has been ranked #1 in reliability since their inception year.

Mercedes has been ranked worst than average every single year.

I want an AVR or AVP or Amp that works perfectly for 20 years. That’s good engineering. Not necessarily SINAD of 120dB and THD+N of 0.0001% if it’s gonna be unreliable or incompatible or inconsistent.

But yeah, just say no to car analogies to audio gear.
lovinthehd posts on November 10, 2022 19:05
AcuDefTechGuy, post: 1579322, member: 26997
What do you mean? Like a Mercedes S Class is more reliable than a Lexus LS/LX?

According to publications like Consumer Reports, Consumer Digest, JD Powers and others, Mercedes has mediocre to bad reliability record.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/mercedes-benz/s-class/2022/reliability/

Reliability
We expect the 2022 S-Class to be less reliable than other new cars. This prediction is based on Mercedes-Benz's brand history and the previous generation of the S-Class.
Predicted Reliability

The 2022 Mercedes-Benz S-Class has been recalled 5 times by NHTSA.View Recalls
Just say no to car analogies to audio gear. Mercedes needs to feed that infrastructure
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