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RBH T-30LSE Measurements & Analysis

by Gene DellaSala last modified January 06, 2012

 

Measuring such a massive speaker system proved challenging.  Rather than risk damaging these speakers and attempting to pull measurements outdoors, I did my best to do a combination of summed and scaled in-room nearfield and listening position measurements.  An even greater challenge was determining the proper measurement distance where all of the drivers acoustically converge.  This happened somewhere between two meters and the listening position.  Unless otherwise stated, all measurements are of 1/12th octave resolution.

Impedance  Impedance Split

Figure 1. Impedance & Phase

The saddle point in the impedance graph lies just below 20Hz.  While these speakers represent a relatively benign phase shift of +12 to -30 degrees across the entire audio band, the dip of 3 ohms centered around 90Hz and 2.5 ohms above 6kHz gives concern for driving them with amplifier of modest current output.  I suggest using a beefy amp safely rated down to 4 ohms and definitely using an amplifier with a lowish output impedance to minimize frequency response variations.  These speakers truly revealed the lackluster performance of the Panasonic SA-XR50 I keep on hand as a reference to poor amplifier performance.  With the Panasonic powering these speakers, the natural reverb and ambience in vocals all but disappeared as the soundstage folded and the bass became sloppy and one notey sounding.

Bass Nearfield

Figure 2. Nearfield Summed Bass Response 

This plot represents the summed nearfield response of the woofers and the port which was scaled by a correction factor of 20*log10 (4/8) or -6dB to account for difference between the cone diameter and the port diameter.  This measurement approximates an anechoic response.  Note the -3dB point is around 18Hz.  Production units are tuned to 20Hz with slightly more output in the 20-40Hz region.  In most rooms, I think I’d prefer the lower tuning of my preproduction units since room modes usually cause additional reinforcement in this region.  Slightly limiting the output here will allow for more placement flexibility and less EQ’ing necessary to flatten in room bass response.

 

T30 Ground Plane

Figure 3.  ½ meter In Room Ground Plane

 

I achieved a similar response curve in my ground plane in room measurement.  Notice there is no HPF on the subs.  RBH claims this allows for more optimal integration with the mid/tweeter section and better preserves time alignment and transient response.  In a 2CH system this would work out just fine.  However If you are setting this up for multi channel applications and plan on using additional subwoofers to achieve more uniform bass across the entire listening area, I suggest biamping these speakers and bass managing the subs at the proper system crossover point (80Hz or lower) to eliminate localization issues when running mono bass to all of your subwoofers located at different areas of the room.

 

Sub Compression

Figure 4. Subwoofer Power Compression Tests In Room Listening Position

The T-30LSE subwoofers can really handle the power and punch out some high SPL’s.   We couldn’t measure any appreciable compression or power bandwidth loss to the limits of our amplifiers (running 400wpc) above 20Hz on this system!

 

Power Compression

Figure 5. Full Range Power Compression Tests In Room Listening Position

The top half of the T-30LSE system remained equally composed and willing to pump out insanely loud SPL levels (at the 400 watt limit of our amplifier) with no hint of compression.  Don’t try this test with a conventional 2 or 3 way system at these power levels.

 

On/Off Axis

Figure 6.  2 meter On/Off Axis Frequency Response

 

The on/off axis response of these speakers remained very linear, exhibiting excellent dispersion characteristics.  The smoothest response was found with just a slight toe in of about 7 degrees.  The excessive high frequency roll off is a function of the drivers not fully summing at this distance and is not representative of what the listener will hear at a listening distance greater than a few meters (see Figure 7).

 

For speaker placement, I suggest starting with no toe in at all and experimenting to find the optimal response based on your room dynamics and listening preferences.

 

T1-SER vs T30

Figure 7.  Frequency Response Comparison of T-30LSE & T-1 SE/R @ Listening Position


I found it interesting to note a very similar response curve at my listening position between the T-30LSE and the T-1 SE/R horizontally oriented as a center channel just below the screen.   I did extensive listening from the far left and right seat and found this to be a superb center channel over an unusually wide listening area.

 

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GranteedEV posts on November 02, 2010 19:07
Hey gene, do you have the polar response graph on these? It's something i've gotten a bit curious about.
frostbyte posts on October 02, 2007 16:34
How are the subs connected? Are they still seperately wired as if you had a pair of 1010 SEP's or are they connected passively with just the speaker wire inputs? Is there 2 sets of inputs? One for the subs and one for the uppers?
frostbyte posts on October 02, 2007 16:24
I own the 661-SE's with 2 1010's and their bass is great and in my wife's own words "I don't think that it would even sound this good if they were playing right in front of us." and this is just the 661's. I'm in persuit to upgrade to these or their reference line.

RBH speakers are amazing IMO and I doubt I'll ever switch unless someone can do better at the same price point.
Dragon99 posts on September 07, 2007 15:08
I had the pleasure of listening to these in the RBH demo room this week during CEDIA. The room was setup as a home theater and they were playing a clip from Master and Commander. I could feel the air hit my face as the cannon fired as if the cannon had been right in front of me.

I was very impressed with the speakers and only wish I could afford them. Alas I'll have to settle for their MC line most likely.
gene posts on April 13, 2007 15:10
I think AVrev.com is next followed by Absolute Sound ???
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