BDP-83 Product Comparison and Setup

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Up until now we've been heavily recommending the Playstation 3 gaming system for use as a Blu-ray player due to its decent deinterlacing and the fact that up until this year it was one of the only Profile 2.0 players on the market. While we've backed off lately due to advances in competing products, and some advancements that surpass the capabilities of even the PS3 as a Blu-ray player, the real question remains - which is the best player for your purposes? To help you decide, we put forth this chart to lay out the differences between the PS3 and the Oppo BDP-83 player:

Oppo BDP-83

Playstation 3

MSRP: $499

MSRP: $399 (80GB)

SACD: Yes (DSD/PCM)

SACD: No

Dolby TrueHD: Bitstream/PCM

Dolby TrueHD: PCM

dts Master Audio: Bitstream/PCM

dts Master Audio: PCM

DVD-Audio: Yes (MLP)

DVD-Audio: No

Blu-ray: Profile 2 (BD-Live!)

Blu-ray: Profile 2 (BD-Live!)

Video Processor:
Anchor Bay VRS

Video Processor:
Sony Cell Processor

HQV Score: 110

HQV Score: 95

1080p HDMI Upconversion: Yes

1080p HDMI Upconversion: Yes

HDMI v1.3

HDMI v1.3

Video Outputs: HDMI, component, composite

Video Outputs: HDMI + PS3 cable (composite, S-video, component options)

Audio Outputs: HDMI, TOSLINK, coax digital, 7.1 analogue, stereo

Audio Outputs: HDMI, TOSLINK, stereo analogue (via PS3 cable)

USB: Yes (2.0)

USB: Yes (2.0)

RS-232C Control: Yes

RS-232C Control: No

Remote: IR

Remote: Bluetooth (via controller or $20 add-on)

In terms of universality, the PS3 can't compete. For use as a standalone Blu-ray player, it's still a contender and offers much of the same level of performance unless you need analogue audio outputs, RS-232C control or, say… IR control. Both players did mediocre on standard definition noise reduction, though I don't see this as much of an issue with Blu-ray Disc playback.

Player Set-Up & Use

setup-video.jpgThe new Oppo BDP-83 menu system is refreshing and easy to navigate. It is broken down into 6 Setup subsections: Playback, Video, Audio Format, Audio Processing, Device, and Network. Playback sets the priority for DVD-Audio and SACD discs and the defaults are set correctly for most multi-channel disc users. The Video Setup menu gives you picture controls like Noise Reduction but also control 24p playback for 1080p content as well as DVD content. The player seems fully capable of working with 2:2 (or higher) systems that change the playback frequency to avoid judder effects in film-sourced content. For the 7.1-channel analogue audio outputs, Oppo has really beefed up its bass management system, providing not only a graphical user interface, but also options for setting distance (delay), size and level control for each channel. This is a far cry from Oppo's earlier attempts at minimal bass management. You can also set the downmix options, which provides 5.1 for those not using a 7.1 speaker system.

setup-picture.jpg setup-speakers.jpg

Let's talk load times. Hit the Eject button and the player takes 3 seconds to wake up and open the tray. 16 seconds later you are playing your disc. That is performance that exceeds any other player we've tested to-date. This is an exciting new player that, sad to say, finally takes Blu-ray back to the speed and quickness of DVD players we're all used to manhandling.

 

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j_garcia posts on April 06, 2010 19:10
Update on my issue with Max Payne BD and the new beta firmware: I dropped by their office here and they confirmed the issue. The disc plays fine with the 1224 firmware but not with the current beta release. They are looking into it. It played fine on the BD-80 with the current production firmware.
adk highlander posts on April 06, 2010 08:32
I've come across a bit of info that will be helpful to anyone using the IR input on the back of the BDP-83. It DOES NOT use a standard 3.5mm mono plug.

If you use a standard plug it can cause damage to the player.

Tip is 5v+, ring is signal and sleeve is ground and on most other setups the tip is signal and sleeve is ground.
PearlcorderS701 posts on April 05, 2010 17:38
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PearlcorderS701;706223
LOL reading your quote I realized I made a typo again. Instead of ......couldn't give up....., it should have been .....couldn't keep up...... Regardless, it is appreciated either way you understood it.
Can you try and put this comment into context again? I totally lost track of what we were talking about...:o
PENG posts on April 05, 2010 07:38
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Understood.

LOL reading your quote I realized I made a typo again. Instead of ......couldn't give up....., it should have been .....couldn't keep up...... Regardless, it is appreciated either way you understood it.
PearlcorderS701 posts on April 04, 2010 14:38
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Assuming you are in the US is it possible for you to visit a best buy store and ask for a demo of the Pioneer BDP-320 or the higher Elite models? Those models did not fare as well as the Oppo 83 in synthetic tests but they do allow some adjustments for NR. Again, I find the XDE produces sharper pictures in general but the Pioneer and the Samsung produce smoother, slightly more noise free pictures. I only mention this again as I believe you said you prefer to have the video processing done in the player. The Edge is nice but it does cost a few bucks and it is a stand alone unit.
Sure, I can get to a local Best Buy (I am in the U.S.) and demo these players -- I have heard that these offer better noise reduction (well, more effective) than most players out there. I will try and check this out; thanks for the lead.

You meant it's like the stock market months before it crashed in 2008?

You have to admit though, Oppo never really 'hypes' their stuff up, it has been a few enthusiastic users who might have exaggerated their superior performance to some degree. IMHO this sort of thiings happen with all sorts of products, including cars, vacuum cleaners etc., not just BD players.


I suppose there's something to be said about this.
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