JL Audio f110 Recommendations & Conclusion
The JL Audio Fathom f110s operated virtually flawlessly for all of my
tests. The only minor issue I noted was
the triggered on feature seemed to be set a bit too sensitively. A simple power spike, fan switch toggle or
sneeze seemed to engage the power on the f110s immediately. There were times during the middle of the
night that I’d walk into the kitchen to get a late night snack and find one or
both f110s on for no apparent reason other than they were, like myself,
restless and eager to play.
As with all high mass subwoofers drivers I’ve listened too, there were times I felt the f110s didn’t quite articulate the upper bass region as well as I heard on my tower speakers or other subwoofers. But, this was a deliberate trade-off for the output and extension they were producing for their given size which blew every other subwoofer with similar footprints out of the water we’ve had in our test labs.
Because of the rather sharp roll-off the f110s exhibit above 80Hz, I’d highly recommend choosing your main speakers wisely. The f110s are not an ideal solution for very small, bass deficient satellite speakers. Of course at this price, it is doubtful a consumer would be using such speakers in a system with these subwoofers but I’ve seen stranger things before. I agree with the JL Audio mantra of dual subs are better than one. In this case it not only produced a more seamless blend with my speakers but it also provided the necessary output to fill my largish family room which opens to my kitchen making that room challenging to fill with deep tactile bass.
I’d proceed
with caution when using ARO as I found its usefulness limited to only the primary
seated position. It’s a shame that at
this price JL Audio didn’t offer a multi-point correction scheme or an
adjustable EQ system for better fine tuning for the experienced installer. I was also a bit surprised to find the
adjustable interface of the f110s to be all push button unlike the much older
but slicker computer drive Velodyne DD series.
Still, the f110s come with a wide selection of adjustable options to
help the installer better integrate this product to your system.
Conclusion
The JL Audio Fathom f110s may be small in size, but they are
not lacking in the performance department.
While there are certainly much larger subs than the f110s at the same
price or less, you will be hard pressed to find all of the performance
attributes the f110 has to offer in such a compact box. Not once did I find the f110s output lacking as
they were always able to rattle my walls and shake my couches when the source
material required it.
For those looking for small but potent subwoofer that looks as good as it sounds and can swing the rather hefty budget to own one, I’d suggest saving your dollars and getting two. A pair of Fathom f110s can be transform the fidelity of your system by providing the depth and slam and uniformity in bass response across all of your listening seats that would not be achieved by lesser designed subs or even a well engineered single subwoofer solution.
The f110s are small enough to tuck behind a couch or leave near a sidewall or corner without being obtrusive. I normally don’t say this about A/V gear, but the f110s have a lot of sex appeal. They look wonderful out in the open, and believe me, you will want to show them off to your audiophile friends or bassaholic girlfriends. It’s clear to me that JL Audio is as serious about high fidelity in the home environment as they have been in mobile audio since their inception. Bassaholics rejoice as JL Audio has produced a reference level product that will thump, and thump well, without requiring a refrigerator sized box that you neither have the space nor the accepting wife to accommodate.
JL Audio Fathom f110
MSRP: $2,100(satin black) / $2,200
(gloss black)
http://www.jlaudio.com
JL Audio, Inc.
10369 North Commerce Pkwy.
Miramar, FL 33025-3962, USA
Phone: 954.443.1100
About JL Audio
Founded in 1975 in Miramar, Florida, JL Audio is a privately held American company manufacturing high-end audio solutions for home audio, mobile and marine applications. JL Audio products are sold exclusively by specialty retailers throughout the U.S.A. and distributed in fifty-eight countries around the world. JL Audio loudspeakers, amplifiers and subwoofers incorporate technologies that have been awarded fourteen U.S. patents.
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I suggest this sub to anyone with the funds and lack of desire for the effort required to orchestrate a DIY project.
Chris this really is an exceptional deal commercially speaking. Can a kappa style box with the 12w7 best it? I'd be willing to bet so. But seriously it's not as simple as it's stated. Even coordinating such a project costs money and time. Ordering a JL Audio takes a click and a check.
bandphan;591657
The head up the arse comment prompted me to re-post the challenge,
That comment was simply an outburst of my annoyance that so many people prefer to just buy a name brand pre-made item, rather than do minimal work to end up with much more for their money. No DIY is even needed in many case - as you can have the box easily built by any car audio shop for cheap and I offer to guide anyone along the process - or they can even choose among pre-fabbed/prefinished cabinets from some sources.
Sometimes you come across as a demi god, especially when discussing products you havent measured or listened to.
scott
I can understand why some people may think I am crazy to discuss products I have not personally analyzed. But when someone gets to the level of knowledge that I have in regards to physical behaviour/limits of specific construction and principles and the measured result expectations, it's just no mystery at all to me; I know the specific limitations and potential performance possible - and I can accurately make comments based on these pre-known performance windows. Of course, an unknown factor could throw me way off base... but in the case of the Fathom F113 and the JTR speaker in another thread... I have seen no evidence of a special factor/variable being present that would allow for something I can't already accurately guess. In the case of the Fathom 113; it's already been measured accurately b a credible 3rd party (so I have extensive data on it's actual performance) add I have used 'raw' JL audio drivers, including W7 units (same tech used in the Fathom, with minor changes), I know their performance abilities/limits.
-Chris
WmAx;591408
If you apply this to me, I don't poke fun at anyone, not in any serious way. I don' t know about 'twice the performance' of the Fathom for 1/2 the price, I have never made any such claim as possible with a sealed cabinet of comparable size to the Fathom, but you can certainly build it's equal for about 1/2 or a bit more the price. There is no secret to this: you can buy a variant of the W7 13" driver JL used in the Fathom for about $600. You can build a virtual clone of the unit for just a tad over 1/2 the cost of the authorized retailer selling price of the Fathom 13", and the DIY will be superior because the DSP I will specify will be more powerful and have more capabilities to seamlessly integrate the subwoofer with the main speakers. Although, 'auto' setup feature will not be present - you will have to do manual setup instead. The amplification and processing hardware will be external, not internal to the sub, as I am not aware of an appropriate internal mounting set up for this subwoofer that is available to the general public.
You can even exceed the JL version if the person wants to go to a larger cabinet size and go ported; LF output will be dramatically increased and distortion radically reduced. If cabinet size is increased, one can even mount the pro-amp and processing unit into the cabinet.
This sounds so bold and impressive, but it's not. Why would anyone spend $1500-$1700 to build a sub and send it off to some person just to look superior on an internet post? How could the DIY version be any worse than the commercial one? You are using the same technology driver and using superior amplification and DSP hardware. You could even exceed it if an Audiopulse ULTRA LMS or AXIS driver was available in 13", but they are not, and it would be 'cheating' to use the 15" version against the 13" W7. But if you want to compare to the 12" Fathom, then there are 12" LMS ULTRA and AXIS drivers available - which are superior to the W7 drivers - as verified in Klippel analysis.
-Chris
my point was is, has anyone taken craig up on this? I have zero doubt that a better sub can be built with 3db more output with a large ported design, but does anyone in the dyi group(which includes me) want to take the challenge? The head up the arse comment prompted me to re-post the challenge, as some just do not care to go dyi or want a one box small footprint solution regardless of the cost, thats all. I guess some are not wanting to be called dumb arses beacuse they dont want to follow your end all design plans. Its nothing personal, as i respect your ability to build high quality products. Sometimes you come across as a demi god, especially when discussing products you havent measured or listened to.
scott
bandphan;591324
Quote:Originally Posted by craigsub
Manville is correct.
It is ridiculous to have to continue to tolerate these meaningless posts from people who have never even auditioned a Fathom, and who have no interest in one, either.
This trend to poke fun at people buying the Fathom for "having more money than sense" and the constant claims of "I could build a sub with twice the performance for half the price" gets really old.
If you apply this to me, I don't poke fun at anyone, not in any serious way. I don' t know about 'twice the performance' of the Fathom for 1/2 the price, I have never made any such claim as possible with a sealed cabinet of comparable size to the Fathom, but you can certainly build it's equal for about 1/2 or a bit more the price. There is no secret to this: you can buy a variant of the W7 13" driver JL used in the Fathom for about $600. You can build a virtual clone of the unit for just a tad over 1/2 the cost of the authorized retailer selling price of the Fathom 13", and the DIY will be superior because the DSP I will specify will be more powerful and have more capabilities to seamlessly integrate the subwoofer with the main speakers. Although, 'auto' setup feature will not be present - you will have to do manual setup instead. The amplification and processing hardware will be external, not internal to the sub, as I am not aware of an appropriate internal mounting set up for this subwoofer that is available to the general public.
You can even exceed the JL version if the person wants to go to a larger cabinet size and go ported; LF output will be dramatically increased and distortion radically reduced. If cabinet size is increased, one can even mount the pro-amp and processing unit into the cabinet.
When called upon to prove it, of course there is a plethora of excuses why the DIY guru cannot do so. I particularly like the "I cannot afford to build you a subwoofer" excuse. Afterall, based on the claims, I would be doubling the DIY guy's money when purchasing the sub from him.
This sounds so bold and impressive, but it's not. Why would anyone spend $1500-$1700 to build a sub and send it off to some person just to look superior on an internet post? How could the DIY version be any worse than the commercial one? You are using the same technology driver and using superior amplification and DSP hardware. You could even exceed it if an Audiopulse ULTRA LMS or AXIS driver was available in 13", but they are not, and it would be 'cheating' to use the 15" version against the 13" W7. But if you want to compare to the 12" Fathom, then there are 12" LMS ULTRA and AXIS drivers available - which are superior to the W7 drivers - as verified in Klippel analysis.
-Chris

