EMP EW30 Listening Tests
CD: Larry
& Lee – Larry Carlton and Lee Ritenour
If you’re a jazz fan, than you are likely well aware of two of finest jazz guitarists today - Lee Ritenour and Larry Carlton. They teamed up back in 1995, when jazz was a little lumpier, to produce this fine guitar duet chock full of great instrumental solos and meaty jazz music. I use this CD as a reference often because it has excellent dynamic range and really gives a speaker system a good workout while also instantly clues me in on if the speaker is tonally accurate or not. The EMP EW30s conveyed the detail in this recording I was all too familiar with. Track #1 “Crosstown Kids” conveyed a large soundstage more so vertically than horizontally. When I directly compared these speakers to my Axiom W3 on-wall speakers, I felt that the EW30s sounded more expansive and natural in the highs, but didn’t have nearly the mid bass impact and slam of the W3s. Track #3 “L.A. Underground” showed off the EW30’s ability to project a 3 dimensional soundstage, revealing the airiness of the high hats with a touch of crispness but NOT overbearingly brightness you find with lesser designed speakers. I felt the bass reproduction was a bit lacking and I highly recommend using a subwoofer with this speaker system to get the fullest range of sound. Despite the modest bass output, I never found the EM30’s to sound strained or overworked when playing at high SPL’s despite the fact I was running them full range.
CD: Steely Dan – Two Against Nature
Instrumentally the EW30s were
fairing pretty well, but I
wanted to see how they handled vocals thus I popped
in a Steely Dan CD – Two Against Nature, which has quickly become a modern
classic. Track #7 “Cousin Dupree” again showed off the very wide soundstage of
the EW30s. Donald’s voice was a bit
recessed but it did sound quite natural.
In direct comparison to the Axiom W3s, I again felt the EW30s offered a
more natural and expansive sound, especially vertically, but the W3s had a more forward and in your
face presence in the vocals along with greater midbass impact on the
percussions. In my mind, neither speaker could replace a similarly
priced, well designed dedicated bookshelf speaker properly located in the room,
but both speakers did commendably well considering their application and space
savings they offered to those who cannot place a bookshelf speaker on a stand
or mount them off of a wall. They also
pretty much trounced any in-ceiling speakers I have heard. Needless to say, I enjoyed my Steely Dan
listening session on the EW30s as I went through about 4 to 5 tracks before I
moved on to my next demo disc.
CD: Dianne Reeves – Never Too Far
You’ve seen this CD pop up in many of my recent reviews. There is good reason for this as I can
instantly determine if a speaker is tonally colored in the highs once I start
hearing Dianne’s voice. I also dig her
music style so it’s a win-win situation and thus why it remains as one of the
discs in my reference collection. I
started with track #2 “Never too Far” paying close attention to the
vocals. I welcomed the broad soundstage but
found a lack of focus I am so accustomed to when listening on my much more
expensive reference bookshelf Status Acoustics Decimo speakers. Noting that limitation which I also find on
many other on-wall type speaker products, including the Axiom W3s, I payed
closer attention to the vocal tonality.
Again the EW30s were laid back in their presentation, never sounding
fatiguing or overbearing where as the W3s had a more forward sound to them,
fuller in the mid bass region, but also a bit too sibilant in the top end
making the vocals sound a bit spitty.
The low end extension of track #3 “Come In” was a bit lacking when listening on the EW30s running full range. This song has some serious bottom end extension warranting a true full range tower speaker or an addition of a good subwoofer or two. I engaged my Axiom EP500 subwoofer to supplement the bass and it helped to significantly round out the sound of the speakers. They blended quite well when crossed over at 80Hz which is what I recommend to those considering these speakers.
Recent Forum Posts:
TOADSKI;371993
I have to say listing to audio at various levels in all stereo mode there isn't any real difference in sound quality.If you are comparing the 35" EMP to the 30" EMP, I will agree whole heartedly, but as for comparing the EMP to the RBH (if that's what you had meant), they are not comparable at all.
If you have heard EMP's beside WM's from RBH, you'd have to be alll but completely tone deaf to not hear the massive, IMMENSE difference in sound etween teh two. They are nto even remotely similar osunding in ANy way at all.
I have both right behind my in my soundroom, the 24" RBH dances circles around the 35" EMP in every aspect of sound reproduction.
To be fair they are also not even comparable in price though, with a pair of EMP's now being sold for less than the cost of one RBH on wall. The EMP's are nice for a budget priced, entry level on-wall that has a fantastic mouting kit and supplied bubble level. They are a great value for money considering some of the junk available in retail outlets today, but they are not even in the same league as RBH, EMP is the little sister to RBH, designed for affordable, online sales.
gsendek;415251
I was looking for in wall speakers they are all CRAP
No they are not all crap at all, perhaps the ones you found in local retailer's were but in-walls can be as good as freestanding models when properly built.
http://rbhsound.com/mc884.shtml [rbhsound.com]
http://www.rbhsound.com/si6000r.shtml [rbhsound.com]
Mind you, you do need quite the budget for Signature Reference Series but the MC series is more than affordale and backed with a 25 YEAR warranty, top that with a floorstanding model.
jnmfox;327338
These appear to be very similar to the RBH WM-24. The WMs have four 4" aluminum drivers and the EW have two 5.25" carbon fiber drivers. I know they are both built by RBH and two different people did the reviews but what other differences are there between the two? Specifically would one be recommended over the other and why or why not?
Thanks
The EMP's are a decent, entry/mid level product, in fact I think the best part is the installation level they include that NOBODY else does. It makes them a breeze to mount in just a couple of minutes.
As for sound, there really is no comparisson at all, between RBH and the EMP onwalls, especially when it comes to price.
The EMP's sound great when balanced with a decent sub, like even the small MS8.1 from RBH. But as far as actual tonal difference, the RBH offer much better lower midrange and are much more spacious.
Mind you, when you compare price, with EMP blowing out the whole W line at ridiculously low prices, they areoffering a fantastic value fo rmoney.
EMP is putting out a nice product with an installation package that isn't even included with top end on-wall products.
gsendek;415251
so are the emp 30's as good or better than the axiom audio w3's. As my search for wall speakers goes on, I have been looking for 2 years, and before i hack big holes in my walls that have new dry wall on them i have to make sure. I was looking for in wall speakers they are all CRAP, so i want on wall, if any one can help, thank you geo
I recently bought some RBH WM-30 (they make emp). During the break in I just left them unmounted until I was sure I liked them enough to start drilling holes.
The manual says 8 holes per speaker, so not too big of a mess.
http://www.emptek.com/EW_Manual.pdf [emptek.com]
gene;327509
The RBM WM24's are likely a better speaker overall, though they are considerably more expensive ($999/pair vs $640/pair for the EMP EW30s which will be available at our e-store soon). The RBH's are more efficient, making them an easier load for a receiver to drive at high SPL levels and also likely have better tonal balance in the midrange. But, both speakers do quite well for what they are so its really a matter of taste, aesthetics and budget.
so are the emp 30's as good or better than the axiom audio w3's. As my search for wall speakers goes on, I have been looking for 2 years, and before i hack big holes in my walls that have new dry wall on them i have to make sure. I was looking for in wall speakers they are all CRAP, so i want on wall, if any one can help, thank you geo
