HD81 Glitches, Calibration & Benchmarks
If I unplugged power to the video processor and reconnected before I started my video source, the cableTV system would incorrectly inform me that the display did not support HDCP. The error occurred with every channel and the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR box was connected directly to the HD81's outboard video processor via HDMI (with low-bandwidth 480p resolution as the lowest common denominator. Subsequent success with other displays, cable integrity was easily ruled out as a potential cause of the error). The only solution involved disconnecting and reconnecting power to the projector itself - except that this didn't always work. Power cycling any of the other devices or terminating power to the video processor did nothing. After rebooting the processor and projector everything tended to again work perfectly, but sometimes the entire system would have to be brought down. After a few more days of viewing this happened again when switching channels - about an hour into watching television. This happened several more times over the course of 30 days and I could not seem to discern a pattern. Switching sources from cableTV to DVD did not seem to help - the HDCP error was still present, ruling out the source. No other projector installed into this reference system has ever behaved in this manner.
The other thing you'll need to be aware of is a rather slow switching process when the resolution changes on an input (think HD cable boxes). At about ~7 seconds, you will experience some delays when going from Fox HD (720p) to CBS HD (1080i) channels. Channels surfers will be most affected and there is no delay when switching between identical formats (i.e. the 480p digital SD channels).
Calibration - Getting Those Black Levels Right!
Though the HD81 is the best Optoma has to offer currently, it will take a few tweaks to get it behaving perfectly. I found that even when set to Warm color temperature and having Brite Mode disengaged, the system could not quite measure flat across the grayscale, nor did it have a smooth luminance response (we'll explain this later). Real-world performance was excellent, but if you use numbers to determine the best projector - you'll need to spend some time tweaking to get optimal results. CIE showed a lack of blue, green and red saturation in varying degrees.
We utilized datacolor's ColorFacts Professional 6.0 software to calibrate and measure the grayscale response of the HD81. Starting positions were a bit off what we expect to see in a high-end projector, but calibration proved successful for the most part as we quickly dialed in the HD81 to approach ISF levels. For the "before" measurements, Auto Iris was engaged and the settings were configured for best film response in a light-controlled room.
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Before Calibration |
After Calibration |
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Looking at our starting settings, the HD81 picture is a tad cool with a color temperature of around ~7600K. |
I was able to dial in the projector quite a bit, but would recommend further work for anyone looking to really get a flat response. 80IRE "rubber banded" into place, leaving the other IRE levels off the mark. |
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Checking out this luminance histogram you'll see that the Auto-iris affected the results just a tad, lol. This graph captures the erratic but effective behavior of the Auto Iris system. |
The after measurements were done with the Iris permanently set at 16. After doing a few more measurements (not shown here) I determined a setting of 10-12 may be a better choice for many. |
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Color temp was a bit erratic at first and we measured around ~7600K. |
After calibration, the system measured ~6500K at 80 IRE. You can see a characteristic bump at 40IRE that could be tied to the meter. |
Both before and after settings looked fantastic to be honest. The calibrated image was much warmer, which is what I've grown accustomed to. We noticed a lack of smooth grayscale response. While 30 and 80 IRE were dialed in, areas in between seemed to run a bit loose. Further adjustments are recommended and you may want to set your lower level at 40 IRE for calibration. This projector had more of a "rubber band" effect than most, where adjustments in one area seemed to bring down that IRE level, but areas of higher and lower light levels wanted to stay where they were.
Our best "real world" measured contrast after calibration was 1648:1, pretty decent given our parameters and the resolution of our meter (we had several errant measurements showing over 20,000:1 but I think it's safe to throw those out and blame an unstable low light reading). Brite Mode will drop the color temperature a couple hundred K so take this into account when calibrating for various uses. At maximum output, we measured over 152 cd/m^2 reflected off the 100-inch Stewart StudioTek 130 screen. Yeah, it's bright.
Audioholics/HQV Bench Testing Summary of Test Results
Perfect Score is 130
Optoma HD81 Benchmark Score: 71
(The Optoma should be considered a suitable video processor for
almost all uses. If you happen to have a high end player, simply feed
progressive out of that component and the Gennum will handle the
scaling of the input signal to the native resolution of the projector.)
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Test |
Max
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HDMI 480i
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HDMI 480i
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Color Bar |
10 |
10 |
Pass |
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Jaggies #1 |
5 |
3 |
Pass |
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Jaggies #2 |
5 |
3 |
Pass |
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Flag |
10 |
5 |
Pass |
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Detail |
10 |
10 |
Pass |
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Noise |
10 |
0 |
Fail |
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Motion adaptive Noise Reduction |
10 |
0 |
Fail |
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Film Detail |
10 |
10 |
Pass |
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Cadence 2:2 Video |
5 |
0* |
Fail |
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Cadence 2:2:2:4 DV Cam |
5 |
0 |
Fail |
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Cadence 2:3:3:2 DV Cam |
5 |
0 |
Fail |
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Cadence 3:2:3:2:2 Vari-speed |
5 |
5 |
Pass |
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Cadence 5:5 Animation |
5 |
0 |
Fail |
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Cadence 6:4 Animation |
5 |
0 |
Fail |
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Cadence 8:7 animation |
5 |
0 |
Fail |
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Cadence 3:2 24fps film |
5 |
5 |
Pass |
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Scrolling Horizontal |
10 |
10 |
Pass |
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Scrolling Rolling |
10 |
10 |
Pass |
| Total Points |
130 |
71 |
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* While the HD81 locked on to 2-2 cadence but had periodic "jumps" where it would quickly lose and reacquire the correct lock.
Comments on HQV Testing
All tests were done by feeding the projector a 480i signal via HDMI. Right off the bat we realized that the Gennum processing, at least this GF9351 chipset didn't have the smoothest jaggie reduction we'd seen. It was definitely reducing jaggies, but in a way that produces smaller jagged edges, rather than a truly smooth line. As a result we gave partial credit for those tests. This manifested itself not only in the Jaggies tests, but also with the more real world Flag test as well.
Failing the noise reduction tests really took me by surprise. I cranked up the Noise Reduction controls all the way to 10 and so absolutely no difference in the picture (even using the Demo mode for comparison). I would have to say that I saw no evidence for this function being enabled over HDMI.
The HD81 was a mixed bag on the AVIA Pro Moving Zone Plate tests, failing the standard Zone Plate test, but doing very well on the 2-3 tests in horizontal, vertical, diagonal, and circular directions (it seemed to take a while to catch on to the vertical movement, but afterwards didn't skip a beat). The 2-2 Zone Plate test went very well in horizontal, took some time to adapt in vertical and showed periodical glitches on that pattern as well. Overall, it sported impressive results that translated to excellent real-world performance.
In testing for rainbow effect (RBE) I found the unit to be pretty good unless you dart your eyes. If you have a "white on black" shape and move your eyes left to right, you're going to see rainbows (if you are susceptible to this). What this tells me is that people who sit very close to the screen (you know who you are!) and have to physically move their eyes to take in the left-to-right action may have some issues. The majority of viewers will not and I was never distracted during normal viewing.
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AVRat
You will never get HD quality from anything less than 720 formatted material. The HD minimum spec is 720 pixel resolution in the vertical axis. Depending on the scaler involved, you can get very close. In other words, you must provide HD material to a HD display to get a TRUE HD picture.
That's not true - stand far enough away from ANY display and it'll look HD.
The non-marketing version of what defines an image as high definition is that when you add one more line of resolution to the image, it doesn't appear to be one bit sharper. So - a 20" display, from 20 feet away, may not look any better to someone with 20/20 vision whether it is fed the VHS version of King Kong or the HD-DVD version.
But, marketing has warped that idea so that people overly tie the 720p (or better) resolution with the exclusive meaning of HDTV.
HDTV is about image size, image quality, display quality, seating distance, and room conditions, as well as some other factors I may have missed. Simply sending 720p HD source material to a compatible display may give a defined version of HD, but doesn't promise the best possible image.
Everything else is a cleaned up version - the best possible version really - of the lower quality format.
In order (pretty much) standard analog cable and VHS are about the worst original video sources. Digital cable and satellite (DirecTV/Dish) are next. Then DVD comes into the mix as the best non-HDTV source available.
Finally, we get HDTV from cable, satellite, and Blu-ray/HD-DVD disc formats.
So, what happens when you run a VHS tape through this machine? Well, you get a really big VHS image. It will look NOTHING like HDTV - but it won't necessarily look 'bad' or even 'so-so'. It MORE depends on your acceptance of the quality. If you know VHS won't look great and aren't nitpicky, then it may look really really good - to you.
If you are picky, then they will look lousy.
It has been said, no less than 10 million times, that converting non-HD material, to an HD format does not make the original source material HD quality. But, this is moreso true with poor quality standard sources such as VHS tapes. This leads to a bit of not-so-typical sarcasm from our beloved Mr. DeBoer here. If he acts up again, just slap him.
I still have about 30 or 40 VHS titles - I am simply replacing them all with DVD titles at this point. In fact, I am thinking about selling or giving away my VHS collection this year. I'll try eBay first - then I'll donate them somewhere.
AVRat
Sign me up for one of those new-fangled VHS deck thingies!! All kidding aside, you will not get HD quality pictures from your old analog video tapes.
If I get a SD-DVD player with "clean 480i" over HDMI can I get HD quality?
Sorry for the dumb questions but other threads are unclear.
:o loose tool :o
