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LCDs Sell on Misinformation

by Tom Andry last modified July 22, 2008
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I'll take the one on the left. It seems the most blu to me...

JD Power and Associates reported today that salespersons recommend LCDs more frequently than plasmas based on old, outdated, or untrue information. The report summarized the data gathered by more than 2,000 trained mystery shoppers that visited big-box electronic stores (Circuit City, Best Buy, etc.), specialty television retailers, mass merchants (Wal-Mart, Target, etc.), and warehouse stores (Costco, Sam's Club, etc.) over the last 6 months.

To say their results are shocking is probably not all that true for the common Audioholics reader or AV Rant listener - more like disappointing.

Salespersons, overall, are pushing LCDs over plasmas at a rate of over 3 to 1 (which is up from last quarter's over 4 to 1). Mostly the salespersons seem to misinformed about how well plasmas work especially in regards to to how long they last (they are still suggesting that LCDs have a longer lifespan though they are about equal) and burn in.

On top of that, salespersons didn't know about some of the advantages of LCDs such as less power consumption, they tend to be lighter, and they produce less heat than plasmas. While they recited that the glass screens on plasmas can cause glare, even JD Power didn't mention that the newer (and larger) LCDs are also starting to come equipped with glass.

Plasmas have some distinct advantages over LCDs especially in black levels and (for now) costs. While LCD panels are creeping up in size and down in price, the larger screens still command a premium over a similarly sized plasma. While faster refresh rates and newer 120Hz enabled displays have helped LCDs,  plasmas have none of those drawbacks and is still considered superior by many for fast rendering motion.

A change may be in the works, however, as salespersons that recommend LCDs do so "less emphatically" than 3 months ago. Plasma brands most recommended were Panasonic (37%) followed by Samsung (14%)  and Pioneer (12%). Samsung topped the LCD list at 35% followed by Sony at 27%. Vizio sets were the only other LCD recommended above 2% at 7%.

As you'd expect, levels of service differed from nonexistent (Costco) to crappy (Wal-Mart) to inconsistent (Best Buy) to good (specialty stores). Of course, they used nicer language than that to describe it. Essentially, you get what you pay for. If you are shopping for the cheapest possible set, you are going to have to do the research yourself. Hopefully, people shopping at a warehouse store aren't expecting a sales associate to be able to delineate the differences between plasma and LCDs. Most of them are just forklift drivers anyhow.

What was probably most interesting in the report was that pricing of models across retailers is very similar. When it isn't, many retailers have price matching programs. This gels with the rumors that we've heard that the margins on displays are about as tight as they can get. When displays are significantly cheaper, it is usually because it is an off brand. Customer perceptions may be that shopping at the big-box stores is somehow getting them a deal but it doesn't seem to be the case. All they are getting is less knowledgeable advice.

With manufacturers trying to make all their displays look like thin, black, bevel-less boxes, it is often hard for consumers to tell them apart. If you are not willing to do the research yourself, you should consider shopping at a location where you are the most likely to get knowledgeable help.

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jonnythan posts on July 25, 2008 08:06
Thanks for the clarification
Tom Andry posts on July 24, 2008 09:34
jonnythan;437268
Sure, sure. I'm not trying to bust anyone's chops, just figure out what the market trends are


I should have just left the percentages in there. LCDs are being recommended less this year than last.
jonnythan posts on July 23, 2008 19:38
majorloser;437109
It's Tom. Ya' gotta let him slide once in awhile.

Sure, sure. I'm not trying to bust anyone's chops, just figure out what the market trends are
bandphan posts on July 23, 2008 19:14
As for a 12 hour marathon with anything, who the heck has 12 hours straight to spend on gaming? And for those that anwser you must be A-Well off enough to not care about ruining a display or B- young enough not to afford the display
no. 5 posts on July 23, 2008 16:39
annunaki;437073
That comes as no surprise to me as I sell against the lies every week. Not to mention making the person who spouted them look like a moron. An interesting article none the less.

I love hearing the craziness about 1080p that goes along with much of it too.


"What do you mean I don't need 1080p for my 20 inch HDTV??"
You know, for normal HDTV watching, burn-in isn't a problem.... But, what about the 12 hour marathon halo sessions? Am I safe, or is my radar going to get burned into the corner? Probably not... Well, unless I do that for a week straight. (Wow, that's a good idea. I need to take work off for a week and try it.) But really, burn in could become a problem for people like my parents. Their TV is on like 16 to 18 hours a day, and all of it is 4:3 with black bars on the sides unless they are watching the occasional HD football game. This is a real concern as many people aren't using their sets for HD content.

Has anyone tried this with one of the current plasma sets? Will a month of TV watched in this manner "burn" the middle of the image leaving the side bars different colors? It would be nice to have a good hard test and see what happens. Of course, I don't know anyone willing to throw away $1000 on a TV just to test this...

I would also like to know. Sure a new KURO has almost no chance of burn in, but what about that $650 cheepie? And does "almost no chance" mean a person would need to be colossal idiot to do it, or does it mean you'll be OK if you only watch widescreen TV and movies?
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